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I¡äm reading about the elevation train masks and it looks pretty interesting.Any of you guys have ever tried it before??? is it effective for Crossfit training??? if so....what kind of exercises are the more appropriate for its use.Thanks a lotWOD ON!!!So-called elevation masks do not work like most think or hope. They do not simulate high altitude training. If anything, they simulate snorkeling at sea level.At high altitude the lungs fill up easily. They have very little oxygen to deliver but they're full. They're filled with thin and oxygen-poor gas. The red blood cells pass through the lungs saying, "Oh, no oxygen deliveries today? ok maybe next time 'round" and keep on going, as empty as little freight train box cars with no freight. Respiration rates and circulation rates go up. Breathing is deep and rapid.In snorkeling the lungs and ribcage become harder and harder to expand as you go deeper, due to the pressure of the water. Lack of oxygen is not the problem; the air is thick and rich with oxygen. Filling the lungs is the problem. The muscles of the ribs and the diaphragm struggle for the strength to pull in air. Breathing becomes shallow and may even slow down.Elevation masks will exercise the heck out of the rib muscles but do nothing to increase the aerobic capacity of your circulatory system.elevation training mask

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Looks like you're going to invade a house SWAT Style on a meth lab or something. Still a nice find OP. I think it's a great idea, but if I was someone using that at my gym, they better ALREADY be in sick physical condition or else it would just look dumb. There was a guy that most people could out cardio that wanted to try the snorkel thing and everyone laughed and said "shut up, you have trouble running 5m's." elevation mask

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When High Altitude/Hypoxic Training Makes Sense<br><br>While the stand-alone altitude masks that operate by restricting breathing don¡¯t improve endurance performance, there are some ways that hypoxic training can be useful.<br>Pacing and Perception Training<br><br>CTS Athlete Rebecca Rusch (3x World Champion, 4x Leadville 100 Champion, 3x Dirty Kanza 200 Champion) is preparing for an expedition to hike up and mountain bike down Kilimanjaro (see video below). She recently spent 3 days walking on a treadmill wearing a 40lb weight vest in the HATC, not to improve her fitness, but to determine the best pacing strategy for carrying 40lbs of gear up to 19,000 feet above sea level. When she went too fast, like accelerating from 2.2 to 2.5mph on a 10% grade at 13,000 feet, her oxygen saturation would plummet and her heart rate would spike. This was coupled with perceptions of tingly fingers and pressure behind her eyes. Together, the speed, heart rate and perception data gives her more knowledge about how to gauge her efforts. Similarly, athletes preparing for Leadville or other high-altitude events benefit from training at altitude to gain an understanding of how hard they can go and how their power and sustainable pace will be affected. Even exposure to altitude, including during short visits, can help acclimatization somewhat. With short visits you don¡¯t have time to increase red blood cell mass, but you may stimulate ventilatory changes, which can help. This is part of the reason mountaineers go up to higher base camps and come back down when they are on their way to extremely high summits.elevation training mask

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Sorry to jump in here guys but since the UG is uneducated in this matter we will bring you up to speed.Here is from Dr. Joseph Sheppard a TRUE user of the Elevation Training Mask.If you DO NOT OWN or NEVER HAVE TRIED the Elevation Training Mask - Contact CASEY@TRAININGMASK.COM for a FREE Training Mask - However this FREE MASK does not come without a catch. You will need to produce a 10 min video of you doing cardio with the TRAINING MASK on. IF you cannot keep it on "since it doesnt work" you will pay us double for that TRAINING MASK" however if you keep it on for the FULL WORK OUT for 10 Mins its yours to keep!IF you get a FREE TRAINING MASK we will log your name and post it to the UNDERGROUND AND YOU WILL BE RESPONSIBLE TO PRODUCE "WERE GOING TO CALL YOU OUT" If you do not do your video!GOOD READ BELOW FROM A DOCTORELEVATE YOUR TRAINING BY DOCTOR JOSEPHMany years ago, I ventured out to the Colorado Rockies to do some Mountain biking, climbing and Skydiving. I read that training or exercising at a much higher altitude would be difficult initially and required an adaptation process at the cellular level. My initial response to living in the different altitude was about 3 days of fatigue, some dizziness, headache, and lethargic. My body adapted quickly to this change and the experience was invigorating. I also heard that many endurance athletes would train at higher altitudes to improve their performance, but with travel and convenience issues that was done by only a few of the select elite athletes.The human body adapts to stressors and changes in the environments in order to survive and live. High altitude training, the reduction of Oxygen greater than 5,000 ft above sea level the promotes an altered muscle metabolism and increased mass of hemoglobin and Red Blood Cells. The body adapts by increasing the size of the cells and optimizes how muscles work more efficiently in this environment.Recently, advancements in training have given the rise to multiple options in altitude simulation tents or rooms and the most effective is the mask based hypoxicator system (Elevation Training Mask). Altitude training is called Hypoxic training which involves living and or training at a reduced oxygen level for the purpose of improved athletic performance or health benefits. The mask reduces the partial pressure of oxygen while keeping the barometric pressure the same with the convenience of training at home or gym. A Finland scientist, Heikki Rusko, concluded that a high altitude house which controls the partial pressure of the oxygen which was equivalent to O2 levels at higher altitudes, showed improvements in EPO and red blood cells with performance improvements in speed, strength, endurance and recovery.While living at a high altitude does show changes in physiology, the intensity of the workouts are altered due to reduced oxygen and the inability to train at high levels of exertion in higher altitudes. Factor variations in training programs, time spent and individual athlete in multiple studies showed different results and the benefits occurred mostly with endurance aerobic type athletes. Atmospheric pressure is the primary difference in the benefit of attitude training. At sea level, the air is denser with more particles of gas per liter while a higher altitude has less molecules of gas and the air is much denser. Higher altitudes cause a physiological change in the body by reducing the partial pressure of gases that are in the body. Specific athletic performancements are caused by these survival adaptation processes in the body.American Researchers claim this is primarily due to increased red blood cell volume, while Australian and New England Researchers believe that this is caused by optimizing the body¡¯s ability to use oxygen more effienctly. Increased Red Blood cell volume occurs when with a decreased oxygen saturation of hemoglobin; the body produces additional red blood cells. This is thru EPO secretion by the kidneys which causes the bone marrow to produce RBC. This stressor adaption causes improved oxygen delivery and hemoglobin saturation levels. This process will occur over time, but it is uncertain of this adaption process timeframe. More effective use of oxygen by the muscular system are also related to ph regulation, glucose transport, growth of new blood cell vessels (angiogenesis), glucose metabolic breakdown and ATP utilization in the Krebs Cycle. In the Journal of Applied Physiology, Researchers concluded that genetic changes occur and that properties of the mitochondrial skeletal muscle adjust to the environment. Research concluded in Switzerland revealed that high level intensity exercises under this altitude hypoxia training causes structural and molecular changes that improve oxygen transport and the utilization by skeletal muscles. The human body is capable of adapting to stressors or environments to work more efficiently and improve how it performs cellular or athletically. I have found that simulated Altitude training while using the Elevation Training mask will do several things to our workouts which are performance based, physiological and mental focus also. The above research conclusions speak for the validity of using the MASK to improve your workouts and training intensities. The MASK is a highly effective device that changes your cellular and structural mechanisms and has improved my performance and health on the road and in the gym.training masks

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How an altitude mask functions<br><br>Many of the masks available on the market simply restrict your breathing so you can¡¯t pull air into your lungs as fast as normal. When you exercise with one you basically get out of breath sooner, at a lower exercise intensity level, than normal. You¡¯ll also accumulate more CO2 in your blood. But the composition of the air you¡¯re breathing is the exact same as it was without the mask. You¡¯re only getting less oxygen because you¡¯re getting less air.<br><br>Exposure to true altitude is different. Here in Colorado Springs at 6200 feet above sea level, the percentage of oxygen in the air is the same as it is at sea level (about 21%). But since the air pressure is lower at altitude those oxygen molecules are further apart, so there are fewer of them in a lungful of air. You¡¯re breathing in the same volume of air, there¡¯s just fewer molecules of oxygen in it. Altitude tents and altitude rooms like the High Altitude Training Center at the US Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs work in a similar way. They remove oxygen from the air you¡¯re breathing so that when you draw in a full breath there¡¯s simply less oxygen in that volume of air.<br><br>The point is, an altitude training mask is not simulating the same type of hypoxia athletes experience either living or training at higher elevations, and that seems to be a crucial difference.elevation mask

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Training at attitude elicits a physiological response of the body releasing more red blood cells and increase the production cycle..this is due to the level of oxygen concentration. Below four thousand feet oxygen contcentration is roughly 20%. And stays constant because constant due to hemoglobin. Unless you suffer from blood loss...it's pretty much constant. After that 4k it bell curves downwards rather quickly per 1000 feet. Hence the term thin air.So I guess the real question is can you train for this?Yes... But.....1- to maintain the ability to function in a hypoxia state is largely stay in a thin air environment. Achieved by 1- living at attitude for awhile. Aka acclimatization. Move to any where in Colorado, Mexico city or lake Tahoe2- using a altitude tent.... Basically is a sleeping bubble that is sealed off and filled with low percentage oxygen. Forcing the body to release more red blood cells. Takes about 3 weeks to acclimate but it must be done nightly.If one stops and you are not at altitude .... In roughly 10 days, the corrects itself and readjusts to the 20 percent mark.Can it be done indefinitely ?Yes... Expensively, you own a altitude simulatutorCheaply. Move to a height of 4k feet plus.Covertly , Yes... Blood doping, Epo supplementation Both work but have hand in hand health risks that lie on morbid side.Using a mask? In theory yes ... Reduce the volume of air pumped in to the lung but increase the demand of oxygen ... The body releases some more blood volume by reducing flow to other unnecessary body parts- tempoarily.Reality...Once you take off that mask.... It tilts back in to balance.Oxygen level in the air at less than 4k... Will still be 20percent. Your body hasn't released enough natural occurring epo to impact anything. Meaning no lasting effects.There is a reason why the us Olympic training centre is in coloradoaltitude mask

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It is nice to see that you acknowledge that it does in fact NOT simulate altitude training (users need to use bucketfuls of faith to actually believe something so illogical).But I am skeptical to it having any beneficial effects at all. You believe in it and have good experiences using it. I am skeptical and may not like it at all if I try it. Placebo and nocebo effect can be at play. My experience really is meaningless, what matters is if it works or not and it does not make much sense from a physical standpoint. I don't see why strengthening lung muscles should help your cardio, when my body is bursting with lactic acid being able to continue to huff and puff is not any of my problems.If you use it a lot I guess it could change your breathing pattern, that seems possible... What I do know though is that it is being aggressively marketed as a substitute for altitude training which is a bad case of false advertising.elevation training mask

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Here is my only problem with that and maybe you guys can answer this for me.When someone trains in Big Bear, the elevation causes them to produce more red blood cells correct?I just had this thought that you need to be constantly surrounded by it for an extended period of time (longer than a 45 min workout) in order to see results. For instance if I went to colorado and stayed there for a few days it would not be enough to see a noticeable difference in my performance.Another example is why some people sleep in hyperbaric chambers. They don't just spend an hour a day in it , they need to be in an oxygen deprived state for an extended period. So I am not sure if this thing would have the same effects?elevation training mask

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This is a quote from the UK retailer that will be stocking them. Sounds good in theory. I reckon we should all wait for more tests to be done. I mean, we have to take into account possible placebo effects and other confounding variables as well.elevation training mask

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How an altitude mask functions<br><br>Many of the masks available on the market simply restrict your breathing so you can¡¯t pull air into your lungs as fast as normal. When you exercise with one you basically get out of breath sooner, at a lower exercise intensity level, than normal. You¡¯ll also accumulate more CO2 in your blood. But the composition of the air you¡¯re breathing is the exact same as it was without the mask. You¡¯re only getting less oxygen because you¡¯re getting less air.<br><br>Exposure to true altitude is different. Here in Colorado Springs at 6200 feet above sea level, the percentage of oxygen in the air is the same as it is at sea level (about 21%). But since the air pressure is lower at altitude those oxygen molecules are further apart, so there are fewer of them in a lungful of air. You¡¯re breathing in the same volume of air, there¡¯s just fewer molecules of oxygen in it. Altitude tents and altitude rooms like the High Altitude Training Center at the US Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs work in a similar way. They remove oxygen from the air you¡¯re breathing so that when you draw in a full breath there¡¯s simply less oxygen in that volume of air.<br><br>The point is, an altitude training mask is not simulating the same type of hypoxia athletes experience either living or training at higher elevations, and that seems to be a crucial difference.training masks

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When High Altitude/Hypoxic Training Makes Sense<br><br>While the stand-alone altitude masks that operate by restricting breathing don¡¯t improve endurance performance, there are some ways that hypoxic training can be useful.<br>Pacing and Perception Training<br><br>CTS Athlete Rebecca Rusch (3x World Champion, 4x Leadville 100 Champion, 3x Dirty Kanza 200 Champion) is preparing for an expedition to hike up and mountain bike down Kilimanjaro (see video below). She recently spent 3 days walking on a treadmill wearing a 40lb weight vest in the HATC, not to improve her fitness, but to determine the best pacing strategy for carrying 40lbs of gear up to 19,000 feet above sea level. When she went too fast, like accelerating from 2.2 to 2.5mph on a 10% grade at 13,000 feet, her oxygen saturation would plummet and her heart rate would spike. This was coupled with perceptions of tingly fingers and pressure behind her eyes. Together, the speed, heart rate and perception data gives her more knowledge about how to gauge her efforts. Similarly, athletes preparing for Leadville or other high-altitude events benefit from training at altitude to gain an understanding of how hard they can go and how their power and sustainable pace will be affected. Even exposure to altitude, including during short visits, can help acclimatization somewhat. With short visits you don¡¯t have time to increase red blood cell mass, but you may stimulate ventilatory changes, which can help. This is part of the reason mountaineers go up to higher base camps and come back down when they are on their way to extremely high summits.training masks

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How an altitude mask functions<br><br>Many of the masks available on the market simply restrict your breathing so you can¡¯t pull air into your lungs as fast as normal. When you exercise with one you basically get out of breath sooner, at a lower exercise intensity level, than normal. You¡¯ll also accumulate more CO2 in your blood. But the composition of the air you¡¯re breathing is the exact same as it was without the mask. You¡¯re only getting less oxygen because you¡¯re getting less air.<br><br>Exposure to true altitude is different. Here in Colorado Springs at 6200 feet above sea level, the percentage of oxygen in the air is the same as it is at sea level (about 21%). But since the air pressure is lower at altitude those oxygen molecules are further apart, so there are fewer of them in a lungful of air. You¡¯re breathing in the same volume of air, there¡¯s just fewer molecules of oxygen in it. Altitude tents and altitude rooms like the High Altitude Training Center at the US Olympic Training Center in Colorado Springs work in a similar way. They remove oxygen from the air you¡¯re breathing so that when you draw in a full breath there¡¯s simply less oxygen in that volume of air.<br><br>The point is, an altitude training mask is not simulating the same type of hypoxia athletes experience either living or training at higher elevations, and that seems to be a crucial difference.altitude mask